1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:38,500 [Music] 2 00:00:42,710 --> 00:00:40,760 welcome to the skinwalker debrief 3 00:00:44,750 --> 00:00:42,720 I'm your host TJ Allard and I'm one of 4 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:44,760 the executive producers on the new TV 5 00:00:47,780 --> 00:00:46,650 series on history called the secret 6 00:00:50,570 --> 00:00:47,790 skinwalker ranch 7 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:50,580 I'm joined each week by Jason McClellan 8 00:00:55,490 --> 00:00:53,250 and Maureen Elsberry and together we 9 00:00:58,340 --> 00:00:55,500 dissect each episode to give you more 10 00:01:00,710 --> 00:00:58,350 insight into the show jason has been 11 00:01:02,689 --> 00:01:00,720 exploring all the strange for more than 12 00:01:05,499 --> 00:01:02,699 a decade he's appeared on that geo 13 00:01:08,810 --> 00:01:05,509 sci-fi history and he's the author of 14 00:01:10,990 --> 00:01:08,820 only weirdos see UFOs an introduction to 15 00:01:12,980 --> 00:01:11,000 the public's misperception of 16 00:01:15,170 --> 00:01:12,990 unidentified aerial phenomenon and 17 00:01:17,060 --> 00:01:15,180 extraterrestrial life and Maureen is a 18 00:01:19,130 --> 00:01:17,070 journalist researcher and podcaster 19 00:01:21,350 --> 00:01:19,140 specializing in the anomalous she 20 00:01:23,450 --> 00:01:21,360 started a docu-series uncovering aliens 21 00:01:25,370 --> 00:01:23,460 on Animal Planet and served as the 22 00:01:28,550 --> 00:01:25,380 ambassador for science channels are we 23 00:01:31,270 --> 00:01:28,560 alone initiative and tonight our special 24 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:31,280 guest is none other than Eric bard 25 00:01:37,730 --> 00:01:34,170 plasma physicist and principal 26 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:37,740 investigator at skinwalker ranch Eric 27 00:01:41,510 --> 00:01:39,810 thank you for joining us tonight we're 28 00:01:44,779 --> 00:01:41,520 excited to talk to you thanks for the 29 00:01:46,490 --> 00:01:44,789 invite this is great so before we go too 30 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:46,500 far into anything else can you tell us a 31 00:01:50,779 --> 00:01:49,170 bit about your role can you explain to 32 00:01:52,850 --> 00:01:50,789 everyone what you do on the ranch I 33 00:01:54,589 --> 00:01:52,860 regular basis well as principal 34 00:01:58,430 --> 00:01:54,599 investigator you know my role is 35 00:02:01,490 --> 00:01:58,440 basically observational point program 36 00:02:03,559 --> 00:02:01,500 that you know the first phases of what 37 00:02:05,449 --> 00:02:03,569 we've done since since the beginning of 38 00:02:09,740 --> 00:02:05,459 our work in 2016 let's basically just 39 00:02:11,690 --> 00:02:09,750 take the data see if we can find in our 40 00:02:13,729 --> 00:02:11,700 data streams including video and audio 41 00:02:15,110 --> 00:02:13,739 and seismic and infrasonic and 42 00:02:17,690 --> 00:02:15,120 electromagnetic measurements if we could 43 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:17,700 find anything that correlates with the 44 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:20,970 narrative that we've inherited simply 45 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:22,050 can find anything that corresponds to 46 00:02:26,540 --> 00:02:23,970 some of the rich history that's been 47 00:02:28,580 --> 00:02:26,550 part of the skinwalkers story since 48 00:02:31,699 --> 00:02:28,590 going back to at least the 1990s and on 49 00:02:34,699 --> 00:02:31,709 the floor so typically the way we run 50 00:02:36,140 --> 00:02:34,709 through the show we would when there is 51 00:02:38,059 --> 00:02:36,150 an episode on we go through the blocks 52 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:38,069 and for those who don't know in 53 00:02:43,069 --> 00:02:40,650 television there's there are blocks a 54 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:43,079 block B block and C Block B Block in 55 00:02:47,270 --> 00:02:46,170 this case we go all the way to F and so 56 00:02:49,940 --> 00:02:47,280 the blocks are essentially 57 00:02:52,910 --> 00:02:49,950 the space between the commercials so as 58 00:02:55,220 --> 00:02:52,920 soon as you come back into a show we 59 00:02:57,230 --> 00:02:55,230 would initially start with the recap of 60 00:02:58,670 --> 00:02:57,240 the previous episode and the way we left 61 00:03:00,710 --> 00:02:58,680 off because now we've been off a week 62 00:03:03,350 --> 00:03:00,720 and we left off with the last episode 63 00:03:05,630 --> 00:03:03,360 high strangeness not to get too deep 64 00:03:07,910 --> 00:03:05,640 into it but Erik just give us the real 65 00:03:19,190 --> 00:03:07,920 quick we saw something in the sky what 66 00:03:23,060 --> 00:03:19,200 was it all right then yeah the fifth 67 00:03:25,220 --> 00:03:23,070 okay I believe the scientific bit yeah 68 00:03:26,540 --> 00:03:25,230 just what are people in saying to you 69 00:03:28,250 --> 00:03:26,550 about that like over that since it had 70 00:03:29,570 --> 00:03:28,260 happened what do people talk to you 71 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:29,580 about like I mean I'm sure you're 72 00:03:33,740 --> 00:03:31,530 bombarded with questions so what are the 73 00:03:36,979 --> 00:03:33,750 most obvious you get and or different 74 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:36,989 responses but you know I enjoy a certain 75 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:40,290 degree of isolation insulation and so 76 00:03:43,910 --> 00:03:41,850 far as I don't have any social media 77 00:03:46,370 --> 00:03:43,920 presence at all and I think that works 78 00:03:48,410 --> 00:03:46,380 well for me I haven't seen a lot of 79 00:03:52,009 --> 00:03:48,420 questions about what's been shown on the 80 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:52,019 television programs and I've just been 81 00:03:58,310 --> 00:03:55,170 focusing on the ongoing work since the 82 00:03:59,840 --> 00:03:58,320 program began I I can imagine that 83 00:04:01,430 --> 00:03:59,850 there's quite a bit of discussion taking 84 00:04:01,789 --> 00:04:01,440 place but I haven't really been a part 85 00:04:05,420 --> 00:04:01,799 of it 86 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:05,430 so this since it isn't an episode this 87 00:04:13,250 --> 00:04:09,690 week Erik Jason knows Murray knows the 88 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:13,260 internet kind of threw up a whole bunch 89 00:04:18,349 --> 00:04:15,690 of questions for you once we put it out 90 00:04:21,590 --> 00:04:18,359 there I saw Maureen posting stuff Jason 91 00:04:23,900 --> 00:04:21,600 posting stuff I was posting things so I 92 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:23,910 think the best way would be to kind of 93 00:04:28,909 --> 00:04:26,490 just get into questions but I think 94 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:28,919 maybe this week that's head you know so 95 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:31,050 we have some email questions first let's 96 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:32,610 go down like Jason why don't you go 97 00:04:36,020 --> 00:04:34,289 through the email questions with him and 98 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:36,030 then morning you could hit the Twitter 99 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:38,010 ones and then I'll take the Facebook 100 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:40,010 questions that we got that cool that 101 00:04:46,430 --> 00:04:43,770 work you guys yeah that works but can I 102 00:04:48,469 --> 00:04:46,440 start we don't get a quick question an 103 00:04:50,779 --> 00:04:48,479 overuse question because I know a lot of 104 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:50,789 people have asked this and you know 105 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:52,770 Thomas tried to cover just like a really 106 00:04:58,250 --> 00:04:56,130 brief statement about this last episode 107 00:05:00,750 --> 00:04:58,260 but there's been a lot of people who 108 00:05:02,970 --> 00:05:00,760 have questions on how you've set up 109 00:05:04,860 --> 00:05:02,980 surveillance equipment like what is that 110 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:04,870 like how many cameras are on the ranch 111 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:08,650 how are they connected with the I know 112 00:05:13,740 --> 00:05:11,410 that they're hardwired but I think like 113 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:13,750 a really brief overview of that would be 114 00:05:19,230 --> 00:05:16,930 super helpful to people yeah sure so in 115 00:05:21,780 --> 00:05:19,240 the beginning when we came onto the 116 00:05:24,990 --> 00:05:21,790 property there were no functioning 117 00:05:29,550 --> 00:05:25,000 surveillance assets at all and we took 118 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:29,560 the approach of minimal invasiveness we 119 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:32,170 didn't really want to deploy too much we 120 00:05:38,940 --> 00:05:35,970 did particularly I didn't want to 121 00:05:41,100 --> 00:05:38,950 broadcast a lot of RF meaning a lot of 122 00:05:42,930 --> 00:05:41,110 electromagnetic signals into the 123 00:05:47,580 --> 00:05:42,940 environment so we went with a wired 124 00:05:49,940 --> 00:05:47,590 system really a very simple minimalist 125 00:05:51,900 --> 00:05:49,950 system to just watch the property 126 00:05:57,330 --> 00:05:51,910 particularly on the east end of the 127 00:06:00,720 --> 00:05:57,340 property and we began recording video 128 00:06:03,390 --> 00:06:00,730 and shortly thereafter I began taking 129 00:06:04,260 --> 00:06:03,400 some other measurements including some 130 00:06:07,790 --> 00:06:04,270 that I've mentioned a few times 131 00:06:10,260 --> 00:06:07,800 including seismic and infrasonic and 132 00:06:11,550 --> 00:06:10,270 electromagnetic measurements looking for 133 00:06:14,610 --> 00:06:11,560 transients looking for correlations 134 00:06:18,210 --> 00:06:14,620 between things that might take place in 135 00:06:25,850 --> 00:06:18,220 all of those data streams pretty decent 136 00:06:28,650 --> 00:06:25,860 explanation yeah I mean or at least try 137 00:06:30,690 --> 00:06:28,660 no you know what something we haven't 138 00:06:34,230 --> 00:06:30,700 talked about yet Erik there's been a lot 139 00:06:36,390 --> 00:06:34,240 of them so the way these systems were 140 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:36,400 set up when I went out there something 141 00:06:40,260 --> 00:06:39,370 you guys did was really unique and it 142 00:06:41,790 --> 00:06:40,270 was about the bunker 143 00:06:44,610 --> 00:06:41,800 like building these bunkers either 144 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:44,620 underground bunkers oh so no one I don't 145 00:06:50,010 --> 00:06:47,050 think we've actually gotten any insight 146 00:06:53,610 --> 00:06:50,020 into that so what was it before and then 147 00:06:55,260 --> 00:06:53,620 what did you do to prevent all of the 148 00:06:57,210 --> 00:06:55,270 problems that were happening or to try 149 00:06:58,590 --> 00:06:57,220 to stop as many problems as you could so 150 00:07:02,010 --> 00:06:58,600 how did how did that come about like 151 00:07:04,290 --> 00:07:02,020 these bunkers sure so I think what you 152 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:04,300 mean by problems our equipment 153 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:06,370 malfunctions yes exactly what I mean 154 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:10,210 yeah sure so one of the ideas early on 155 00:07:14,070 --> 00:07:12,490 which eventually became part of our 156 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:14,080 program was an undergrad 157 00:07:21,629 --> 00:07:18,370 on location where we have you know 158 00:07:23,670 --> 00:07:21,639 electrical power and we have network 159 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:23,680 connectivity so that we can put some 160 00:07:28,170 --> 00:07:25,930 equipment in that location 161 00:07:29,779 --> 00:07:28,180 beneath ground level and take the 162 00:07:32,939 --> 00:07:29,789 measurements that I've spoken of 163 00:07:34,589 --> 00:07:32,949 including the seismic infrasonic in the 164 00:07:37,709 --> 00:07:34,599 beginning and then heading to that 165 00:07:39,029 --> 00:07:37,719 electromagnetic measurements you know we 166 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:39,039 have probes that stick up above the 167 00:07:44,159 --> 00:07:42,490 ground and so we basically got a 168 00:07:46,890 --> 00:07:44,169 continuous data stream that I can 169 00:07:48,839 --> 00:07:46,900 monitor from basically anywhere that 170 00:07:50,790 --> 00:07:48,849 allows it's there's a signal that comes 171 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:50,800 to me from the from the platform that 172 00:07:59,459 --> 00:07:55,210 I've named Satan that alerts me to any 173 00:08:02,100 --> 00:07:59,469 kind of unusual Peaks any anything that 174 00:08:09,119 --> 00:08:02,110 really I can define what's interesting 175 00:08:10,050 --> 00:08:09,129 to me in this easier sorry you know 176 00:08:12,929 --> 00:08:10,060 saying and these things look like 177 00:08:15,420 --> 00:08:12,939 underground sewer talk like concrete 178 00:08:18,059 --> 00:08:15,430 sewer tunnels essentially yeah sure sure 179 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:18,069 we've got you know we've referred to it 180 00:08:22,379 --> 00:08:20,050 I don't I don't to be irreverent but we 181 00:08:24,869 --> 00:08:22,389 referred to the locations the Satan pit 182 00:08:26,399 --> 00:08:24,879 right you know the idea is is this 183 00:08:29,249 --> 00:08:26,409 platform it's beneath the ground level 184 00:08:32,180 --> 00:08:29,259 and you know it sits there and just what 185 00:08:34,350 --> 00:08:32,190 it's monitoring things right now and so 186 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:34,360 during the live stream which you may 187 00:08:37,949 --> 00:08:35,529 remember there was some there were some 188 00:08:39,420 --> 00:08:37,959 graphics but sometimes in the lower 189 00:08:43,079 --> 00:08:39,430 portion of the screen and you were 190 00:08:46,380 --> 00:08:43,089 looking at live output from a couple of 191 00:08:48,180 --> 00:08:46,390 those platforms Maureen I'm sorry I cut 192 00:08:50,130 --> 00:08:48,190 you off please oh no it's okay I was 193 00:08:52,769 --> 00:08:50,140 just wondering then if you're you're 194 00:08:57,060 --> 00:08:52,779 sitting at home and your phones blowing 195 00:08:58,290 --> 00:08:57,070 up all the time it alerts 24/7 instead 196 00:09:02,069 --> 00:08:58,300 of seeing if somebody's stealing your 197 00:09:11,819 --> 00:09:02,079 package it's somebody mutilating a cow 198 00:09:16,380 --> 00:09:11,829 that's a bad example but so what I'm 199 00:09:18,090 --> 00:09:16,390 what I'm looking for are unusual signals 200 00:09:20,910 --> 00:09:18,100 signals that go above the background 201 00:09:22,740 --> 00:09:20,920 level I'm particularly interested in 202 00:09:27,929 --> 00:09:22,750 certain frequency ranges as you might 203 00:09:29,219 --> 00:09:27,939 imagine and I'm really excited when I 204 00:09:31,109 --> 00:09:29,229 see something happening in the 205 00:09:32,819 --> 00:09:31,119 individual field of the cameras or 206 00:09:36,439 --> 00:09:32,829 something that I can hear in the audio 207 00:09:38,189 --> 00:09:36,449 stream that that correlates with the 208 00:09:43,169 --> 00:09:38,199 with the measurements that I've 209 00:09:45,149 --> 00:09:43,179 mentioned on the satan platform yes so 210 00:09:47,309 --> 00:09:45,159 do we one let's just jump into rest of 211 00:09:49,199 --> 00:09:47,319 these questions whether whichever one of 212 00:09:51,719 --> 00:09:49,209 you wants to you know first thing yes 213 00:09:54,569 --> 00:09:51,729 yeah we'll well we'll go through through 214 00:09:57,329 --> 00:09:54,579 the email questions first sure all right 215 00:10:01,949 --> 00:09:57,339 we have an email from Chris and Chris 216 00:10:04,349 --> 00:10:01,959 asks would like to clarify that during 217 00:10:06,629 --> 00:10:04,359 Lookout events involving batteries do 218 00:10:09,239 --> 00:10:06,639 the batteries die and all electrical 219 00:10:11,309 --> 00:10:09,249 potential is equalized or is it that due 220 00:10:13,949 --> 00:10:11,319 to some field the electrons in the 221 00:10:15,509 --> 00:10:13,959 batteries don't flow in other words do 222 00:10:17,879 --> 00:10:15,519 you ever see devices that don't work 223 00:10:21,179 --> 00:10:17,889 seemingly due to low voltage but then 224 00:10:23,189 --> 00:10:21,189 later work without charging you know 225 00:10:25,199 --> 00:10:23,199 there there are a few questions embedded 226 00:10:28,009 --> 00:10:25,209 in that question and they're all good 227 00:10:30,659 --> 00:10:28,019 ones I really like that one you know as 228 00:10:32,849 --> 00:10:30,669 coincidence would have it when I was a 229 00:10:36,029 --> 00:10:32,859 graduate student I worked in a company 230 00:10:38,849 --> 00:10:36,039 that manufactured bury chargers and 231 00:10:40,369 --> 00:10:38,859 maintenance circuits and so I'm pretty 232 00:10:42,919 --> 00:10:40,379 familiar with charge and discharge 233 00:10:46,109 --> 00:10:42,929 algorithms in other words how we manage 234 00:10:47,759 --> 00:10:46,119 battery power book you know charging the 235 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:47,769 batteries up and making sure that 236 00:10:55,199 --> 00:10:51,569 they're not damaged during use I ran a 237 00:10:56,879 --> 00:10:55,209 test lab for batteries and so one of the 238 00:10:58,739 --> 00:10:56,889 things that we sometimes overlook when 239 00:11:00,409 --> 00:10:58,749 we talk about battery malfunction is the 240 00:11:04,139 --> 00:11:00,419 fact that there's actually a circuit 241 00:11:05,669 --> 00:11:04,149 that usually governs the flow of current 242 00:11:07,019 --> 00:11:05,679 in and out of the battery I don't want 243 00:11:09,329 --> 00:11:07,029 to bore you with the details both but 244 00:11:11,189 --> 00:11:09,339 one of the important points going to 245 00:11:14,329 --> 00:11:11,199 this question is that sometimes I'm 246 00:11:17,009 --> 00:11:14,339 convinced what we're seeing is not 247 00:11:18,719 --> 00:11:17,019 damaged or even a malfunction of the 248 00:11:20,819 --> 00:11:18,729 battery itself but of the circuitry 249 00:11:23,219 --> 00:11:20,829 whose job it is to maintain the health 250 00:11:27,089 --> 00:11:23,229 of the battery did that make sense 251 00:11:29,009 --> 00:11:27,099 hmm absolutely and yeah and there and 252 00:11:30,839 --> 00:11:29,019 there's some follow-up to that it's 253 00:11:32,460 --> 00:11:30,849 really interesting we see a lot of times 254 00:11:35,369 --> 00:11:32,470 with our mobile devices we see 255 00:11:37,259 --> 00:11:35,379 anomalously high rates of discharge we 256 00:11:40,229 --> 00:11:37,269 see better we see you know for example 257 00:11:41,830 --> 00:11:40,239 our cell phones may may 1 minute 258 00:11:44,770 --> 00:11:41,840 indicate that they're at 50% 259 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:44,780 even 90% charge and moments later we'll 260 00:11:48,220 --> 00:11:46,370 see that they're shutting down you know 261 00:11:51,550 --> 00:11:48,230 their one percent you know what happened 262 00:11:53,350 --> 00:11:51,560 well that can be due to a depletion of 263 00:11:56,950 --> 00:11:53,360 the battery itself but it can also be 264 00:11:59,290 --> 00:11:56,960 due to really a malfunction something 265 00:12:02,980 --> 00:11:59,300 that is interfering with the circuitry 266 00:12:04,390 --> 00:12:02,990 whose job it is to monitor the state of 267 00:12:07,450 --> 00:12:04,400 health or state of charge of the battery 268 00:12:09,670 --> 00:12:07,460 and I have some evidence to support the 269 00:12:11,830 --> 00:12:09,680 idea that it's really the latter so 270 00:12:14,980 --> 00:12:11,840 before going on to the next question 271 00:12:17,620 --> 00:12:14,990 Erik you and I had a in experience with 272 00:12:20,530 --> 00:12:17,630 my phone while we were there and I saw 273 00:12:22,270 --> 00:12:20,540 it on the table during the first episode 274 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:22,280 at least believe that was it 275 00:12:28,390 --> 00:12:25,970 out there yeah can you keep can you kind 276 00:12:30,370 --> 00:12:28,400 of explain so my phone bricked while we 277 00:12:32,980 --> 00:12:30,380 were there just like a lot of other 278 00:12:35,350 --> 00:12:32,990 people's have but we could I'm sorry 279 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:35,360 have you shared this story before no I 280 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:37,730 really haven't so please I want I would 281 00:12:46,270 --> 00:12:40,370 love your technical presentation of it 282 00:12:49,030 --> 00:12:46,280 like what happened to my phone Erica for 283 00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:49,040 you to describe what you saw as as the 284 00:12:52,660 --> 00:12:50,780 guy just you know holding the device and 285 00:12:55,810 --> 00:12:52,670 then I can jump in with the technical 286 00:12:58,630 --> 00:12:55,820 side is that okay yeah please so what 287 00:13:00,550 --> 00:12:58,640 had happened my I think was this after 288 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:00,560 my you had to check my heart rate that 289 00:13:06,790 --> 00:13:04,130 was jumping up to like 170 or 200 as we 290 00:13:08,980 --> 00:13:06,800 were doing things on the ranch I think 291 00:13:12,910 --> 00:13:08,990 you reported that your heart rate was 292 00:13:14,950 --> 00:13:12,920 registering 176 and the meter right when 293 00:13:17,770 --> 00:13:14,960 I got out there I did manually check 294 00:13:19,540 --> 00:13:17,780 your pulse and I think it was 124 okay 295 00:13:21,070 --> 00:13:19,550 so we were still up there but for no 296 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:21,080 reason there was no reason for it to be 297 00:13:27,310 --> 00:13:24,290 that way and then my phone so what I had 298 00:13:29,290 --> 00:13:27,320 done is I believed that the charging 299 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:29,300 meter I plugged it into charge because 300 00:13:33,220 --> 00:13:30,890 it had just stopped it shut off our 301 00:13:36,220 --> 00:13:33,230 drone died one of the cameras died some 302 00:13:39,820 --> 00:13:36,230 audio died and then my my phone just 303 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:39,830 bricked and so I tried to plug it in it 304 00:13:43,150 --> 00:13:41,090 just sat there plugged in nothing 305 00:13:46,060 --> 00:13:43,160 happened I brought it inside to Erik and 306 00:13:48,100 --> 00:13:46,070 I was like he's laughing at me like what 307 00:13:49,810 --> 00:13:48,110 are you doing man I'm put in the freezer 308 00:13:51,850 --> 00:13:49,820 I threw it almost nonsense and he's like 309 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:51,860 I don't know if that's gonna help 310 00:13:55,660 --> 00:13:53,810 I don't think yours won't do stuff like 311 00:13:57,430 --> 00:13:55,670 that just you know we plugged it in 312 00:13:58,960 --> 00:13:57,440 and ultimately I was like look I can't 313 00:14:01,330 --> 00:13:58,970 get this to work I'm gonna have to get a 314 00:14:03,490 --> 00:14:01,340 new phone you know what here it's yours 315 00:14:06,850 --> 00:14:03,500 just do it do with it what you may 316 00:14:09,250 --> 00:14:06,860 and we never got it I never got it going 317 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:09,260 again but you did you brought it back to 318 00:14:16,660 --> 00:14:12,050 life somehow very so this this was a 319 00:14:18,970 --> 00:14:16,670 samsung phone a Galaxy s8 correct and 320 00:14:22,510 --> 00:14:18,980 and so when you when you gave me that 321 00:14:24,490 --> 00:14:22,520 phone I look I'm not a phone expert so I 322 00:14:29,620 --> 00:14:24,500 decided to take it to one of the repair 323 00:14:31,570 --> 00:14:29,630 outlets and I I requested that we get a 324 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:31,580 diagnostic as to what the heck was wrong 325 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:33,890 with it but I didn't want it repaired so 326 00:14:37,420 --> 00:14:35,450 I instructed the gentleman who took the 327 00:14:39,180 --> 00:14:37,430 phone just just take it apart see if you 328 00:14:41,710 --> 00:14:39,190 can figure out what's wrong with it and 329 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:41,720 let me know and he gave it back to me at 330 00:14:46,530 --> 00:14:44,210 pieces I cuz I've got some ideas of what 331 00:14:48,850 --> 00:14:46,540 I might do with it afterwards and so 332 00:14:50,290 --> 00:14:48,860 shortly after dropping it off I got a 333 00:14:51,430 --> 00:14:50,300 call from these guys who said the 334 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:51,440 battery's dead 335 00:14:57,250 --> 00:14:55,370 it's basically inside out and so I asked 336 00:15:00,460 --> 00:14:57,260 them about the date code on the battery 337 00:15:02,620 --> 00:15:00,470 they told me that it was not so old that 338 00:15:06,340 --> 00:15:02,630 it should have reached end-of-life that 339 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:06,350 was interesting so again this gets into 340 00:15:10,510 --> 00:15:07,730 the weeds I'm afraid that this might be 341 00:15:11,860 --> 00:15:10,520 a little tedious for some but I think 342 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:11,870 people look people really want to hear 343 00:15:25,290 --> 00:15:20,800 so so I put the original battery and I 344 00:15:28,180 --> 00:15:25,300 took the phone in pieces and I 345 00:15:30,250 --> 00:15:28,190 discovered that that I was able to trick 346 00:15:33,130 --> 00:15:30,260 the phone into charging your your dead 347 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:33,140 battery and so deeply discharged that it 348 00:15:36,310 --> 00:15:34,730 was latched out you know basically the 349 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:36,320 circuitry was not allowing it to accept 350 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:39,050 the charge I resuscitated it and took it 351 00:15:41,500 --> 00:15:40,010 through several charge and discharge 352 00:15:45,610 --> 00:15:41,510 cycles and Founder your phone works just 353 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:45,620 fine and that was puzzling I thought 354 00:15:50,530 --> 00:15:47,330 okay well it was a maybe it was a 355 00:15:51,970 --> 00:15:50,540 one-off kind of of an exception you know 356 00:15:55,030 --> 00:15:51,980 this is something happened out there 357 00:15:56,350 --> 00:15:55,040 that latched your phone off and all it 358 00:15:58,030 --> 00:15:56,360 needed was you know effectively a 359 00:16:00,610 --> 00:15:58,040 jump-start by some non-conventional 360 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:00,620 playing around with the insights which 361 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:03,130 you can only do with phones open so I 362 00:16:09,369 --> 00:16:06,890 discovered later however that if the 363 00:16:10,599 --> 00:16:09,379 phone discharged 364 00:16:12,669 --> 00:16:10,609 you know - what would normally be the 365 00:16:14,499 --> 00:16:12,679 shut-off condition it latched out every 366 00:16:16,779 --> 00:16:14,509 time in other words there's some kind of 367 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:16,789 permanent damage going to the point that 368 00:16:19,599 --> 00:16:18,410 I made earlier there appears to be some 369 00:16:22,210 --> 00:16:19,609 kind of permanent damage to the 370 00:16:26,799 --> 00:16:22,220 circuitry whose job it is to manage the 371 00:16:29,289 --> 00:16:26,809 battery and I found that this same 372 00:16:31,599 --> 00:16:29,299 condition applies to both the old 373 00:16:33,639 --> 00:16:31,609 battery and the brand new one that I 374 00:16:35,219 --> 00:16:33,649 purchased that means that that ownership 375 00:16:37,359 --> 00:16:35,229 of the problem is someone who decided to 376 00:16:42,999 --> 00:16:37,369 anybody the phone it's not just in the 377 00:16:45,189 --> 00:16:43,009 church manager on that and that's right 378 00:16:46,689 --> 00:16:45,199 in mine I mean look you talked about a 379 00:16:48,339 --> 00:16:46,699 drone malfunctioning you talked about 380 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:48,349 some problems of camera equipment but 381 00:16:51,879 --> 00:16:49,970 this is not uncommon this is something 382 00:16:53,949 --> 00:16:51,889 that we deal with episodically on a 383 00:16:55,989 --> 00:16:53,959 range there's something interfering with 384 00:16:59,439 --> 00:16:55,999 our devices and as far as I'm concerned 385 00:17:00,819 --> 00:16:59,449 that's data mm-hmm absolutely absolutely 386 00:17:02,889 --> 00:17:00,829 you know I mean if I witnessed this 387 00:17:04,449 --> 00:17:02,899 firsthand I lost my phone anything had 388 00:17:08,169 --> 00:17:04,459 to get another phone and we bust our 389 00:17:09,759 --> 00:17:08,179 drone so but anyway no that's a great 390 00:17:11,559 --> 00:17:09,769 thank you for the explanation and then 391 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:11,569 we found some kind of random what was 392 00:17:16,389 --> 00:17:13,970 that like robot Terminator looking thing 393 00:17:18,129 --> 00:17:16,399 did we ever determine what that was so 394 00:17:19,539 --> 00:17:18,139 like so he stripped everything down and 395 00:17:23,100 --> 00:17:19,549 he try to boot up the operating system 396 00:17:25,899 --> 00:17:23,110 and some freaky ass looking robot 397 00:17:28,230 --> 00:17:25,909 graphic was just showing up on it like 398 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:28,240 my phone had been hacked it's like uh 399 00:17:36,129 --> 00:17:31,610 what is this man I have no explanation 400 00:17:37,419 --> 00:17:36,139 for that I know no picture I'm gonna 401 00:17:38,649 --> 00:17:37,429 find a picture for everybody and you 402 00:17:39,700 --> 00:17:38,659 guys could tell me somebody maybe 403 00:17:40,990 --> 00:17:39,710 someone will know what it is oh 404 00:17:42,669 --> 00:17:41,000 absolutely 405 00:17:48,159 --> 00:17:42,679 someone out there will know what it is 406 00:17:50,889 --> 00:17:48,169 well absolutely well looks like no 407 00:17:53,169 --> 00:17:50,899 screen background oh yeah I just I don't 408 00:17:54,879 --> 00:17:53,179 know why it would be on there it made no 409 00:17:57,129 --> 00:17:54,889 sense if you didn't put it on there I 410 00:17:58,930 --> 00:17:57,139 sure didn't it was like a it was like a 411 00:18:00,430 --> 00:17:58,940 graphic from a ROM or something that 412 00:18:02,409 --> 00:18:00,440 someone had side loaded onto the phone 413 00:18:04,210 --> 00:18:02,419 but I didn't do any of that and so it 414 00:18:05,740 --> 00:18:04,220 was like either someone had hacked my 415 00:18:07,779 --> 00:18:05,750 device and kind of ran something 416 00:18:08,980 --> 00:18:07,789 underneath which I don't think happened 417 00:18:12,940 --> 00:18:08,990 could I don't put it in positions like 418 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:12,950 that but anyway uh Jason please go on 419 00:18:16,180 --> 00:18:14,690 the next one here so because we are 420 00:18:17,950 --> 00:18:16,190 going down to the phone room so all 421 00:18:21,039 --> 00:18:17,960 right let's jump to the next question 422 00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:21,049 and this is a question that covers two 423 00:18:25,210 --> 00:18:22,160 different things 424 00:18:28,029 --> 00:18:25,220 Betsie asks have you seen the shadow 425 00:18:32,230 --> 00:18:28,039 people if so please describe and also 426 00:18:35,020 --> 00:18:32,240 have you seen a portal open up so I 427 00:18:38,950 --> 00:18:35,030 don't know who the shadow people might 428 00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:38,960 be I have heard reports of sort of 429 00:18:45,580 --> 00:18:43,130 amorphous black I might even say 430 00:18:47,409 --> 00:18:45,590 humanoid forms other people have given 431 00:18:52,299 --> 00:18:47,419 reports like that I've never seen 432 00:18:54,430 --> 00:18:52,309 anything like that and I'm not sure that 433 00:18:56,289 --> 00:18:54,440 I would recognize a portal opening up 434 00:18:58,419 --> 00:18:56,299 I'm not sure what the support what the 435 00:19:02,470 --> 00:18:58,429 evidence is a portal opening up I don't 436 00:19:08,799 --> 00:19:02,480 know what that is yet yet yes oh no I 437 00:19:11,980 --> 00:19:08,809 agree but again on the property or 438 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:11,990 people have been there before describe 439 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:16,370 to me what we what we have termed a 440 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:20,570 portal or a window opening up and if I 441 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:23,690 ever do see it I'll let you know and to 442 00:19:27,549 --> 00:19:26,210 add to that you did say though you 443 00:19:30,460 --> 00:19:27,559 mentioned something and please correct 444 00:19:32,140 --> 00:19:30,470 me if I'm wrong while I was on the ridge 445 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:32,150 one night one night we were there cuz we 446 00:19:37,419 --> 00:19:34,730 were there so many one night the sulfur 447 00:19:38,799 --> 00:19:37,429 smell that I picked up is that somebody 448 00:19:40,870 --> 00:19:38,809 said wasn't that an indicate now I 449 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:40,880 didn't see anything but I definitely 450 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:42,890 there was there was something made my 451 00:19:47,860 --> 00:19:45,650 hair stand up and I smelled something 452 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:47,870 and so you were explaining that was it 453 00:19:54,310 --> 00:19:51,610 that people have told you I was right 454 00:19:56,380 --> 00:19:54,320 and I've seen I've made me aware that 455 00:19:58,510 --> 00:19:56,390 there are some questions about why why 456 00:20:00,549 --> 00:19:58,520 sometimes we see our personnel wearing 457 00:20:04,750 --> 00:20:00,559 these hydrogen sulphide detectors and it 458 00:20:08,350 --> 00:20:04,760 goes right to this question as it turns 459 00:20:11,590 --> 00:20:08,360 out the this the sensation of smelling 460 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:11,600 sulfur can be exactly what it seems to 461 00:20:14,590 --> 00:20:12,770 be and that is that there are some 462 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:14,600 sulfur compounds in the air and we're 463 00:20:20,740 --> 00:20:16,730 just we're just smelling right but 464 00:20:21,820 --> 00:20:20,750 there's another and I suspect that that 465 00:20:23,169 --> 00:20:21,830 might account for some of these 466 00:20:26,350 --> 00:20:23,179 instances where people think they're 467 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:26,360 smelling burning tires or smoke or burnt 468 00:20:39,310 --> 00:20:36,850 we're wearing we can have what's known 469 00:20:41,740 --> 00:20:39,320 as an olfactory Colusa nation we can 470 00:20:43,630 --> 00:20:41,750 have the very real sense that we're 471 00:20:45,340 --> 00:20:43,640 smelling a sulfur compound when in fact 472 00:20:48,610 --> 00:20:45,350 it's just something to keep a stick in 473 00:20:51,630 --> 00:20:48,620 our brains and as it turns out this is 474 00:20:56,950 --> 00:20:51,640 something that can be induced by a 475 00:20:58,270 --> 00:20:56,960 transient into the magnetic field and 476 00:20:59,740 --> 00:20:58,280 that lines up with some of the other 477 00:21:02,050 --> 00:20:59,750 things that have been discussed on the 478 00:21:03,940 --> 00:21:02,060 show Jay do you want to hit the next 479 00:21:05,620 --> 00:21:03,950 next one let's jump to the next one the 480 00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:05,630 next question comes from Tom and Tom 481 00:21:10,030 --> 00:21:07,760 asks regarding the vertical light beam 482 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:10,040 over the ridge Travis asked if there was 483 00:21:14,470 --> 00:21:12,170 a parking lot behind the ridge is it 484 00:21:16,810 --> 00:21:14,480 possible that this is a light pillar 485 00:21:18,910 --> 00:21:16,820 from a light source somewhere behind the 486 00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:18,920 ridge I love this question you know 487 00:21:21,970 --> 00:21:20,480 first of all Travis's response was 488 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:21,980 exactly the same as mine first time I 489 00:21:28,270 --> 00:21:23,650 saw that there's got to be somebody 490 00:21:32,140 --> 00:21:28,280 beaming a light into the air I'd seen it 491 00:21:36,250 --> 00:21:32,150 not enough enough occasions that didn't 492 00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:36,260 seem plausible unless there's a really 493 00:21:41,830 --> 00:21:40,400 long running event going on but the 494 00:21:44,170 --> 00:21:41,840 question about light pillars that was 495 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:44,180 exactly my conjecture about what might 496 00:21:48,610 --> 00:21:45,770 what might be going on there now there's 497 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:48,620 an interesting wrinkle on this I've been 498 00:21:54,250 --> 00:21:52,610 on the property before when the the CCD 499 00:21:56,710 --> 00:21:54,260 cameras me that you know the sensor 500 00:22:01,480 --> 00:21:56,720 inside the camera is picking up at that 501 00:22:03,190 --> 00:22:01,490 vertical light feature and I've gone out 502 00:22:07,060 --> 00:22:03,200 on the helipad and I can't see it with 503 00:22:10,660 --> 00:22:07,070 my eyes so what I take from that is that 504 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:10,670 it may contain we visible component but 505 00:22:15,550 --> 00:22:12,050 it could be something happening in the 506 00:22:17,050 --> 00:22:15,560 near-infrared now I don't I don't jump 507 00:22:19,660 --> 00:22:17,060 to the conclusion that we're looking at 508 00:22:23,890 --> 00:22:19,670 something exotic when we see this it's 509 00:22:25,690 --> 00:22:23,900 just unusual and so light pillars you 510 00:22:28,060 --> 00:22:25,700 know as a topic I think is a good place 511 00:22:29,980 --> 00:22:28,070 to start in looking for what we might 512 00:22:31,750 --> 00:22:29,990 consider a mundane explanation for it 513 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:31,760 you know this is this is just one of 514 00:22:35,530 --> 00:22:33,650 those opportunistic observations it's 515 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:35,540 something that stands out and and it has 516 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:37,010 happened several times in our inter 517 00:22:42,370 --> 00:22:39,970 footage like 518 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:42,380 all right the next the next question 519 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:44,570 comes from Joe and Joe asks is it 520 00:22:48,669 --> 00:22:46,490 possible that the gilsu night combined 521 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:48,679 with the minerals is creating a natural 522 00:22:55,029 --> 00:22:51,130 or designed battery capacitor 523 00:22:57,039 --> 00:22:55,039 semiconductor and/or circuit I love this 524 00:23:02,889 --> 00:22:57,049 question I love it I knew you're gonna 525 00:23:04,990 --> 00:23:02,899 love this this is the kind of discourse 526 00:23:07,690 --> 00:23:05,000 that I really think we should be 527 00:23:08,740 --> 00:23:07,700 engaging in you know it's not that I'm 528 00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:08,750 looking for 529 00:23:12,370 --> 00:23:10,370 you know prosaic treatment of every one 530 00:23:16,389 --> 00:23:12,380 of the things we see there's a really 531 00:23:19,659 --> 00:23:16,399 rich audio by scientific research going 532 00:23:21,810 --> 00:23:19,669 on that may in fact involve the gills 533 00:23:27,940 --> 00:23:21,820 tonight there's some really interesting 534 00:23:31,299 --> 00:23:27,950 geophysics or early on I did some 535 00:23:33,159 --> 00:23:31,309 research into what might be an 536 00:23:34,389 --> 00:23:33,169 explanation for the orb phenomenon 537 00:23:36,399 --> 00:23:34,399 you're probably familiar with the 538 00:23:37,779 --> 00:23:36,409 stories of Lights balls of light or how 539 00:23:39,940 --> 00:23:37,789 to roll it around well there's a 540 00:23:41,590 --> 00:23:39,950 phenomenon that has been given the name 541 00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:41,600 earthquake lights perhaps you've heard 542 00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:44,720 of it and there's some really good 543 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:47,200 research actually fairly late-breaking 544 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:50,690 going back to about 2014 and there are 545 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:52,250 some individuals who have you know 546 00:23:59,259 --> 00:23:55,730 prolifically treated this topic talking 547 00:24:02,110 --> 00:23:59,269 about rift basins and in particular 548 00:24:07,269 --> 00:24:02,120 these were referred to as as vertical 549 00:24:08,830 --> 00:24:07,279 dikes of dissimilar materials like they 550 00:24:10,450 --> 00:24:08,840 didn't mean built tonight but I'm saying 551 00:24:11,740 --> 00:24:10,460 you know you have a material they're 552 00:24:15,009 --> 00:24:11,750 similar from the surrounding material 553 00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:15,019 that runs in these vertical veins again 554 00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:21,110 I am NOT a geologist and geophysicist so 555 00:24:25,980 --> 00:24:23,600 I don't want to speak out tongue but I 556 00:24:29,340 --> 00:24:25,990 find some interesting alignment between 557 00:24:34,269 --> 00:24:29,350 the discussion of both quick lights and 558 00:24:36,730 --> 00:24:34,279 what's unique about the geology there in 559 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:36,740 the Uintah Basin and maybe the gilsu 560 00:24:40,060 --> 00:24:38,570 night plays a role it does have two 561 00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:40,070 similar physical properties from the 562 00:24:48,690 --> 00:24:46,530 I don't know this is this has happened 563 00:24:50,340 --> 00:24:48,700 and it's just because people keep asking 564 00:24:53,270 --> 00:24:50,350 me about this and it's making news 565 00:24:56,690 --> 00:24:53,280 articles not related to the ranch but 566 00:25:01,230 --> 00:24:56,700 have you ever had the hum phenomena 567 00:25:02,910 --> 00:25:01,240 happened on the ranch is this the same 568 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:02,920 phenomenon that is associated with a 569 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:05,170 place called Taos well it's it's 570 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:06,970 happening all over the world actually 571 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:09,730 which is a strange part but I believed 572 00:25:15,540 --> 00:25:12,730 house has a centralized area where that 573 00:25:17,970 --> 00:25:15,550 is going on as well right yeah I've read 574 00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:17,980 something about that and and there are 575 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:20,110 on the internet what 576 00:25:24,990 --> 00:25:23,050 purport to be even recordings of strange 577 00:25:29,340 --> 00:25:25,000 sounds that might might be part of that 578 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:29,350 um you know I don't think but I don't 579 00:25:36,150 --> 00:25:32,530 think what I'm hearing is the same thing 580 00:25:37,980 --> 00:25:36,160 but I am picking up some some some 581 00:25:40,890 --> 00:25:37,990 sounds for which I don't have an 582 00:25:45,170 --> 00:25:40,900 assignable cause and it is a humming in 583 00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:48,720 pulsating humming almost grinding sound 584 00:25:53,070 --> 00:25:50,710 and the first thing that comes to mind 585 00:25:54,540 --> 00:25:53,080 of course is well perhaps we're picking 586 00:25:57,150 --> 00:25:54,550 up on something from the surrounding 587 00:26:02,970 --> 00:25:57,160 aural and gas industry you know that we 588 00:26:10,020 --> 00:26:02,980 have there near the ranch I kind of I'm 589 00:26:11,850 --> 00:26:10,030 told doesn't line up with the way so yes 590 00:26:15,780 --> 00:26:11,860 there are sounds but I don't know if 591 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:15,790 this is the same hum sure that's very 592 00:26:21,150 --> 00:26:17,770 interesting though yeah you're gonna 593 00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:21,160 start a whole new line it's actually 594 00:26:29,580 --> 00:26:25,840 it's quite haunting yes it is scary I've 595 00:26:31,650 --> 00:26:29,590 heard this it's violent enough to shake 596 00:26:34,230 --> 00:26:31,660 the inside of the cameras whose 597 00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:34,240 microphones are picking are picking it 598 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:38,110 up and so I have you know you've got to 599 00:26:42,780 --> 00:26:40,450 understand you know my job is is not to 600 00:26:45,950 --> 00:26:42,790 sensationalize my job is to try to find 601 00:26:49,220 --> 00:26:45,960 assignable cause I won't call it mundane 602 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:49,230 but but at least something that 603 00:26:53,070 --> 00:26:51,730 harmonizes with reason right you know we 604 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:53,080 don't have to go straight to the 605 00:26:57,120 --> 00:26:55,330 interdimensional and the exotic in order 606 00:26:58,860 --> 00:26:57,130 to find an explanation for every 607 00:27:04,010 --> 00:26:58,870 that takes place and so you know when 608 00:27:08,910 --> 00:27:04,020 I've got a humming sound or a buzzing 609 00:27:11,940 --> 00:27:08,920 pulsating sound such as I often hear you 610 00:27:15,180 --> 00:27:11,950 know I'm looking for that this is some 611 00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:15,190 kind of its former noise or maybe it's 612 00:27:17,460 --> 00:27:16,240 something that's coming in on the 613 00:27:20,820 --> 00:27:17,470 electric lines you know onto the 614 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:20,830 property so far I haven't been able to 615 00:27:26,460 --> 00:27:24,850 pin it in an explanation on the fact 616 00:27:29,610 --> 00:27:26,470 that you just mentioned potentially 617 00:27:31,470 --> 00:27:29,620 electric lines or other mundane 618 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:31,480 explanations like people want to hear 619 00:27:34,860 --> 00:27:33,250 that because a lot of people think like 620 00:27:37,890 --> 00:27:34,870 oh I cracked the case did you think 621 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:37,900 about the power lines well of course I 622 00:27:42,270 --> 00:27:39,610 thought about the power lines thank you 623 00:27:44,340 --> 00:27:42,280 sir but that's a bad thing I mean all 624 00:27:49,620 --> 00:27:44,350 these all this feedback is great but 625 00:27:52,050 --> 00:27:49,630 still I want to encourage it you know 626 00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:52,060 absolutely I the more people start 627 00:27:55,770 --> 00:27:53,710 thinking about this critically I think 628 00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:55,780 that the better at least one of the 629 00:27:59,070 --> 00:27:57,520 agendas here at the ranch is served and 630 00:28:00,650 --> 00:27:59,080 that is let's let's elevate the quality 631 00:28:03,930 --> 00:28:00,660 of a discourse and let's think about 632 00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:03,940 let's go through that that the due 633 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:05,200 diligence you know the process of 634 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:07,930 elimination and who knows you know 635 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:09,130 somewhere in there we're going to find 636 00:28:15,540 --> 00:28:11,170 something that really defies prosaic 637 00:28:17,790 --> 00:28:15,550 treatment excellent so where did we 638 00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:17,800 leave off I mean are we on to this so 639 00:28:22,290 --> 00:28:20,080 email let's jump one more question from 640 00:28:24,930 --> 00:28:22,300 email this question comes from Ryan and 641 00:28:26,970 --> 00:28:24,940 Ryan asks have you or anyone at the 642 00:28:29,010 --> 00:28:26,980 ranch seen any craft like the ones the 643 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:29,020 Pentagon posted the other day and if so 644 00:28:32,970 --> 00:28:31,450 how many different types of craft had 645 00:28:37,260 --> 00:28:32,980 the crew witness since being on the 646 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:37,270 ranch I can only speak for myself I 647 00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:39,130 think that it would be inappropriate for 648 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:41,110 me to preempt anything that might be 649 00:28:45,390 --> 00:28:43,050 shared by the other members of the team 650 00:28:48,090 --> 00:28:45,400 and not only that I think I would be 651 00:28:52,380 --> 00:28:48,100 poor job of paraphrasing what they have 652 00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:52,390 seen this this short answer to have 653 00:28:57,620 --> 00:28:54,880 members of the team seen what they 654 00:29:01,800 --> 00:28:57,630 interpret his craft over the ranch's yes 655 00:29:06,780 --> 00:29:01,810 my answer is you know I'm going to toe 656 00:29:10,529 --> 00:29:06,790 this line my answer is I have seen 657 00:29:13,079 --> 00:29:10,539 things in the video footage for 658 00:29:15,930 --> 00:29:13,089 I do not have an assignable cause it 659 00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:15,940 doesn't mean that I'm dealing with UFOs 660 00:29:21,419 --> 00:29:18,070 okay it doesn't necessarily mean that 661 00:29:24,239 --> 00:29:21,429 that this is something exotic it could 662 00:29:26,789 --> 00:29:24,249 be anything from aircraft that are not 663 00:29:29,129 --> 00:29:26,799 self identifying for example you know 664 00:29:30,689 --> 00:29:29,139 there's a system called a DSP or yuuichi 665 00:29:33,089 --> 00:29:30,699 you know they broadcast and identified 666 00:29:36,629 --> 00:29:33,099 normally in controlled airspace they're 667 00:29:38,339 --> 00:29:36,639 supposed to do that well perhaps in the 668 00:29:39,719 --> 00:29:38,349 area where the ranch is located we have 669 00:29:41,159 --> 00:29:39,729 some aircraft certainly I know there 670 00:29:42,569 --> 00:29:41,169 have been cases at least in the daytime 671 00:29:44,159 --> 00:29:42,579 when I've seen aircraft but I haven't 672 00:29:46,769 --> 00:29:44,169 seen them showing up on my transponder 673 00:29:50,819 --> 00:29:46,779 data receivers so perhaps we're seeing 674 00:29:54,839 --> 00:29:50,829 that but there has been or there have 675 00:30:01,169 --> 00:29:54,849 been two instances that I find really 676 00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:01,179 hard to to missing that matter and I 677 00:30:04,919 --> 00:30:02,769 don't know how much I should say about 678 00:30:06,719 --> 00:30:04,929 that at this point yeah listen uh it 679 00:30:11,699 --> 00:30:06,729 doesn't go too far into it I mean I 680 00:30:14,189 --> 00:30:11,709 think as we get there right yeah yes 681 00:30:17,609 --> 00:30:14,199 let's let it sit you know simmer a 682 00:30:19,529 --> 00:30:17,619 little bit I I was super surprised when 683 00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:19,539 I heard that you know you guys have 684 00:30:23,999 --> 00:30:22,089 encountered planes flying over the ranch 685 00:30:26,099 --> 00:30:24,009 that you know aren't putting out a 686 00:30:28,049 --> 00:30:26,109 transponder signal I mean that to me was 687 00:30:29,579 --> 00:30:28,059 crazy to hear that you've encountered 688 00:30:37,649 --> 00:30:29,589 that more than once I mean that's just 689 00:30:38,759 --> 00:30:37,659 bizarre and not being a pilot I don't 690 00:30:40,319 --> 00:30:38,769 know whether they can just flip a switch 691 00:30:41,729 --> 00:30:40,329 and turn that off 692 00:30:45,869 --> 00:30:41,739 you know I don't know what we're dealing 693 00:30:47,099 --> 00:30:45,879 with there are there I would assume at 694 00:30:50,159 --> 00:30:47,109 least a lot of them look like private 695 00:30:53,399 --> 00:30:50,169 aircraft and perhaps they routinely 696 00:30:55,739 --> 00:30:53,409 don't broadcast self-identification I 697 00:30:58,199 --> 00:30:55,749 don't know a lot of a lot of potential 698 00:31:00,719 --> 00:30:58,209 explanations there and I think as we go 699 00:31:04,019 --> 00:31:00,729 on hopefully we'll continue to you know 700 00:31:06,029 --> 00:31:04,029 peel back the layers on that but so 701 00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:06,039 these that was Ryan's question you said 702 00:31:11,129 --> 00:31:08,799 Jason that was last one oh no I'm sorry 703 00:31:13,169 --> 00:31:11,139 yes a lot yeah last one will do from 704 00:31:15,899 --> 00:31:13,179 email cool Maureen why don't you take 705 00:31:18,479 --> 00:31:15,909 the Twitter ones yeah um first off let 706 00:31:21,809 --> 00:31:18,489 me say that that don't feel bad by by 707 00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:21,819 saying they're UFOs Jason and I always 708 00:31:27,210 --> 00:31:22,240 use 709 00:31:29,010 --> 00:31:27,220 mean they're extraterrestrial in nature 710 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:29,020 or something unusual 711 00:31:33,510 --> 00:31:31,690 it's just unidentified that's right but 712 00:31:35,970 --> 00:31:33,520 I thought why you specify for sure I 713 00:31:37,350 --> 00:31:35,980 have to say this to you guys I said that 714 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:37,360 to Eric and that's what he really 715 00:31:41,549 --> 00:31:39,130 appreciated the fact that you two are 716 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:41,559 both looking at it from that standpoint 717 00:31:53,850 --> 00:31:43,570 you're not making the velcro there for 718 00:31:55,470 --> 00:31:53,860 aliens I mean we fought forever with 719 00:31:56,730 --> 00:31:55,480 that because we always wanted people to 720 00:31:58,830 --> 00:31:56,740 know just because we're covering and 721 00:32:00,450 --> 00:31:58,840 saying something's a UFO we're not 722 00:32:02,340 --> 00:32:00,460 guaranteeing that it's flown by an 723 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:02,350 intelligent extraterrestrial 724 00:32:10,830 --> 00:32:06,850 civilization not ours at that point yeah 725 00:32:12,540 --> 00:32:10,840 so I don't know if you've seen this or 726 00:32:15,210 --> 00:32:12,550 not because I know you're not on social 727 00:32:18,450 --> 00:32:15,220 media but I'm guessing someone has has 728 00:32:21,030 --> 00:32:18,460 shown this theory tear but Timothy asks 729 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:21,040 what you think about noted debunker Mik 730 00:32:26,970 --> 00:32:24,490 West his theory he's taken a stance on 731 00:32:29,549 --> 00:32:26,980 the against the second UFO sighting on 732 00:32:31,860 --> 00:32:29,559 Episode four he explains the UFO is a 733 00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:31,870 plane in close proximity to the plane 734 00:32:37,169 --> 00:32:34,630 that is also in frame can you come Tom 735 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:37,179 this so I think it's important for me to 736 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:39,130 make a point that yes there was air 737 00:32:52,110 --> 00:32:46,770 traffic near the well in the air space 738 00:32:54,510 --> 00:32:52,120 air traffic I know that aircraft 739 00:32:58,110 --> 00:32:54,520 frequently fly through the basement 740 00:33:02,610 --> 00:32:58,120 right over the ranch I didn't put city 741 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:02,620 and beyond and the point that I would 742 00:33:13,370 --> 00:33:09,970 make is that I can count for one 743 00:33:17,810 --> 00:33:13,380 particular event for which I 744 00:33:18,170 --> 00:33:17,820 that doesn't mean I don't have to date 745 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:18,180 her 746 00:33:24,260 --> 00:33:22,050 I think that yeah as TJ mentioned it's 747 00:33:26,180 --> 00:33:24,270 still under the wraps because we asked a 748 00:33:28,610 --> 00:33:26,190 question about this kind of last week 749 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:28,620 Jason and I when he asked what we do 750 00:33:32,780 --> 00:33:30,570 further an investigation about 751 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:32,790 contacting the specific flame that was 752 00:33:37,660 --> 00:33:35,010 was passing by so we'll leave that as a 753 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:37,670 tease for it for a future episode 754 00:33:42,740 --> 00:33:39,650 because I know we'll probably hit that 755 00:33:45,410 --> 00:33:42,750 so I'll tell you this just just just so 756 00:33:50,450 --> 00:33:45,420 bit it's understood that we do our due 757 00:33:51,980 --> 00:33:50,460 diligence after the fact you know I've 758 00:33:55,220 --> 00:33:51,990 downloaded what are known as the kml 759 00:33:58,430 --> 00:33:55,230 files which are conveniently mapable on 760 00:34:01,040 --> 00:33:58,440 to something like google earth so that I 761 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:01,050 can so that I can view in in you know in 762 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:03,570 three-dimensional space I can view the 763 00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:09,330 the flight path of aircraft from the 764 00:34:16,700 --> 00:34:12,960 perspective of the ranch and yes I can 765 00:34:18,460 --> 00:34:16,710 account for some of your traffic how do 766 00:34:22,070 --> 00:34:18,470 you account for a lot of it that way 767 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:22,080 there's there's one particular event 768 00:34:27,710 --> 00:34:26,370 that I'm not so sure about we'll get to 769 00:34:31,430 --> 00:34:27,720 that and I think we had a good 770 00:34:32,690 --> 00:34:31,440 discussion about this last week you know 771 00:34:37,369 --> 00:34:32,700 because I think a lot of the confusion 772 00:34:40,270 --> 00:34:37,379 that these debunkers who you know wanted 773 00:34:42,980 --> 00:34:40,280 to analyze a TV show entirely too much 774 00:34:44,720 --> 00:34:42,990 where we're commenting on you know 775 00:34:46,220 --> 00:34:44,730 different different time discrepancies 776 00:34:48,770 --> 00:34:46,230 and things when this thing was happening 777 00:34:51,409 --> 00:34:48,780 and in trying to sleuth this thing 778 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:51,419 together but you know we heard a pretty 779 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:53,010 good explanation last week and again 780 00:34:58,880 --> 00:34:57,090 it's TV the the editing isn't it's not 781 00:35:00,650 --> 00:34:58,890 happening in real time and sometimes the 782 00:35:02,300 --> 00:35:00,660 b-roll that's used to show something on 783 00:35:07,580 --> 00:35:02,310 a screen isn't what's happening at that 784 00:35:10,970 --> 00:35:07,590 moment that's an i I don't know if the 785 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:10,980 point was was made clearly that that the 786 00:35:14,180 --> 00:35:12,570 event that was just described involving 787 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:14,190 a pair of objects one of them having a 788 00:35:19,970 --> 00:35:16,170 contrail and the other one not was not 789 00:35:23,660 --> 00:35:19,980 the first event and if that point wasn't 790 00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:23,670 made then I'm making it here so we we 791 00:35:27,140 --> 00:35:25,710 tried to clarify like these things were 792 00:35:28,940 --> 00:35:27,150 not necessarily in chronological 793 00:35:31,789 --> 00:35:28,950 and the images you're seeing on screen 794 00:35:33,620 --> 00:35:31,799 as the clinical b-roll which in the 795 00:35:36,529 --> 00:35:33,630 b-roll they usually refer to a b-roll as 796 00:35:39,380 --> 00:35:36,539 Beauty role so you're showing that to 797 00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:39,390 move a story along or to show backstory 798 00:35:42,829 --> 00:35:41,190 as someone's talking over it so just 799 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:42,839 because it's a timestamp on the b-roll 800 00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:44,130 does not necessarily mean that is 801 00:35:49,130 --> 00:35:45,599 exactly what you were looking at right 802 00:35:51,620 --> 00:35:49,140 right yeah I I'm talking about the tease 803 00:35:53,299 --> 00:35:51,630 about whether or not you contacted the 804 00:35:56,870 --> 00:35:53,309 plane to see what they saw the well 805 00:36:01,970 --> 00:35:56,880 charted that I'm saying we we obviously 806 00:36:04,099 --> 00:36:01,980 can't talk about yet know where asks 807 00:36:07,279 --> 00:36:04,109 could skinwalker ranch be built over a 808 00:36:09,049 --> 00:36:07,289 natural fish on nuclear reactor and by 809 00:36:12,289 --> 00:36:09,059 those products we're talking xenon in 810 00:36:15,380 --> 00:36:12,299 neodymium so Eric would this explain the 811 00:36:18,859 --> 00:36:15,390 magnetic anomalies ionizing radiation 812 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:18,869 the lights discharges deleterious health 813 00:36:24,380 --> 00:36:22,130 effects and the wind from the sinkhole 814 00:36:28,099 --> 00:36:24,390 you know I don't know about the last one 815 00:36:31,009 --> 00:36:28,109 but you know if we had something like a 816 00:36:33,650 --> 00:36:31,019 natural fission reactor 817 00:36:36,289 --> 00:36:33,660 you know beneath the ranch or perhaps in 818 00:36:38,660 --> 00:36:36,299 the Mesa or under the fields out there 819 00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:38,670 that I wouldn't be surprised to see some 820 00:36:42,829 --> 00:36:40,049 of the effects that have been mentioned 821 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:42,839 I can't say anything about the 822 00:36:50,299 --> 00:36:47,249 prevalence of neodymium or or xenon gas 823 00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:50,309 I think was the other one but I would 824 00:36:55,210 --> 00:36:51,599 certainly expect to be able to eat 825 00:37:02,569 --> 00:37:00,170 yeah okay we do have a chief asks Wendy 826 00:37:04,579 --> 00:37:02,579 when do you attend to release a paper or 827 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:04,589 data on your findings and you have a 828 00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:07,170 timeline for other releases developments 829 00:37:10,759 --> 00:37:09,359 for the public you know that's not up to 830 00:37:13,069 --> 00:37:10,769 me but it's definitely something that 831 00:37:17,569 --> 00:37:13,079 we've discussed and I guess that's all 832 00:37:18,769 --> 00:37:17,579 very TBD yes I think I think Brandon is 833 00:37:22,430 --> 00:37:18,779 going to get into that a little bit more 834 00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:22,440 in weeks to come right I have to defer 835 00:37:29,089 --> 00:37:27,089 to guidance on that cool I mean the fact 836 00:37:30,430 --> 00:37:29,099 that you're thinking about doing papers 837 00:37:33,769 --> 00:37:30,440 and releasing them to the public 838 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:33,779 scientific papers is awesome on its own 839 00:37:39,470 --> 00:37:37,249 so I think that's good to touch on I'm 840 00:37:40,990 --> 00:37:39,480 sorry I think it would be very 841 00:37:44,300 --> 00:37:41,000 satisfying to share 842 00:37:46,070 --> 00:37:44,310 something in that that type with them 843 00:37:48,290 --> 00:37:46,080 public I hope we have the opportunity to 844 00:37:51,140 --> 00:37:48,300 do that Eric before she goes to the next 845 00:37:53,630 --> 00:37:51,150 one you told me something long long ago 846 00:37:56,510 --> 00:37:53,640 many moons ago you know why this is so 847 00:37:58,550 --> 00:37:56,520 important for it to be released to the 848 00:38:00,230 --> 00:37:58,560 people for people to kind of examine 849 00:38:01,460 --> 00:38:00,240 this and I think your quote was 850 00:38:05,060 --> 00:38:01,470 something about if this can help you 851 00:38:06,110 --> 00:38:05,070 take your right could you can you I was 852 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:06,120 paraphrasing but please could you just 853 00:38:13,940 --> 00:38:10,770 kind of you know when I was in Dallas 854 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:13,950 that may be in con 855 00:38:18,110 --> 00:38:17,130 I remember being greeted by a it's 856 00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:18,120 interesting that I can actually remember 857 00:38:22,250 --> 00:38:19,440 these guys names you know but there was 858 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:22,260 there was a kid on the street his name 859 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:26,250 was Nico and he stopped me and and Tom 860 00:38:29,390 --> 00:38:28,170 he said hey I recognize you guys you're 861 00:38:32,450 --> 00:38:29,400 you were talking in that session 862 00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:32,460 yesterday and in our conversation you 863 00:38:38,780 --> 00:38:36,960 know what came out as I heard myself say 864 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:38,790 it I thought hey this really feels right 865 00:38:44,930 --> 00:38:42,690 and I what I said to film like what you 866 00:38:47,630 --> 00:38:44,940 know we're all involved in a search of 867 00:38:48,890 --> 00:38:47,640 one kind or another and I think that my 868 00:38:51,770 --> 00:38:48,900 search is a success 869 00:38:54,380 --> 00:38:51,780 did you finish that it enabled or in 870 00:38:57,710 --> 00:38:54,390 some way the doors and I think that's 871 00:39:00,440 --> 00:38:57,720 the outlook there that I'm approaching 872 00:39:02,630 --> 00:39:00,450 my role with did I know there are a lot 873 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:02,640 of people you know on the next day I you 874 00:39:07,940 --> 00:39:04,890 know I kind of revisited that story with 875 00:39:08,900 --> 00:39:07,950 the Pope ability to conduct it and I 876 00:39:13,100 --> 00:39:08,910 don't know how many people are in that 877 00:39:15,110 --> 00:39:13,110 room that you and I said you know if if 878 00:39:16,420 --> 00:39:15,120 if I were to ask but show of hands how 879 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:16,430 many people consider themselves 880 00:39:21,260 --> 00:39:18,410 you know how many people are looking 881 00:39:23,420 --> 00:39:21,270 looking for something I'm saying every 882 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:23,430 hand in that ring would go up and you 883 00:39:33,070 --> 00:39:25,890 know I got a lot of nods and so I 884 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:35,150 and so I hope I've made the point 885 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:36,330 clearly enough without belaboring 886 00:39:42,140 --> 00:39:40,290 absolutely yep I think some telly so 887 00:39:44,150 --> 00:39:42,150 Eric we're gonna hit the there's a few 888 00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:44,160 more questions for Facebook and I'll 889 00:39:52,370 --> 00:39:47,280 just jump into them okay so we have a 890 00:39:54,430 --> 00:39:52,380 Claire has Claire asks has Eric ever had 891 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:54,440 any personal experiences on the ranch 892 00:40:00,160 --> 00:39:57,010 that have made him feel scared or uneasy 893 00:40:02,230 --> 00:40:00,170 people have previously talked of being 894 00:40:05,170 --> 00:40:02,240 emotionally affected on the ranch with 895 00:40:08,589 --> 00:40:05,180 fear and I wondered if he had ever 896 00:40:14,770 --> 00:40:08,599 encountered anything like this yes I 897 00:40:16,210 --> 00:40:14,780 have and I'm in good company okay we 898 00:40:18,460 --> 00:40:16,220 will leave it at that these are things 899 00:40:19,990 --> 00:40:18,470 again these answers and stuff that we're 900 00:40:23,230 --> 00:40:20,000 getting just so the audience knows like 901 00:40:26,050 --> 00:40:23,240 a lot of this more information will come 902 00:40:28,030 --> 00:40:26,060 we're not being coy to be coy we're not 903 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:28,040 trying to be mysterious there are you 904 00:40:32,829 --> 00:40:30,530 know things will come out as we go on 905 00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:32,839 and I think people appreciate them more 906 00:40:38,770 --> 00:40:35,569 because of be in a better context Larry 907 00:40:41,740 --> 00:40:38,780 from facebook asks can Eric say if any 908 00:40:44,109 --> 00:40:41,750 government agencies have tried to deter 909 00:40:47,050 --> 00:40:44,119 them from their investigations on the 910 00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:47,060 ranch so you know I've been asked a 911 00:40:52,690 --> 00:40:50,000 question like this before and I think I 912 00:40:56,770 --> 00:40:52,700 should answer the same way now as I have 913 00:40:58,020 --> 00:40:56,780 before so if I were to say no could you 914 00:41:01,660 --> 00:40:58,030 trust the answer could you trust me 915 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:01,670 right if I if I were to say yes so then 916 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:03,650 you know go into it after having 917 00:41:08,710 --> 00:41:05,810 presumably committed not to share 918 00:41:10,990 --> 00:41:08,720 something then could you trust me so I 919 00:41:13,390 --> 00:41:11,000 think I have to deal with the lesser of 920 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:13,400 perhaps three evils the third one being 921 00:41:16,540 --> 00:41:14,930 to say nothing at all and what I'm gonna 922 00:41:19,020 --> 00:41:16,550 say is no I have not received any 923 00:41:23,890 --> 00:41:19,030 instructions for me government entities 924 00:41:26,589 --> 00:41:23,900 not reveal anything and I hope that my 925 00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:26,599 answer is sincere enough that you can 926 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:28,609 you can weigh out whether you believe it 927 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:32,690 or not actually thank you this is from 928 00:41:37,450 --> 00:41:35,810 Rick Leigh Whannell on Facebook he says 929 00:41:40,359 --> 00:41:37,460 I would like to know what types of 930 00:41:42,550 --> 00:41:40,369 vibratory and frequency testing that 931 00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:42,560 they have completed on the Mesa and the 932 00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:50,510 ranch so ongoing we are as I've 933 00:41:58,359 --> 00:41:54,250 mentioned before we are measuring 934 00:41:59,710 --> 00:41:58,369 seismic and infrasonic meaning sounds 935 00:42:03,390 --> 00:41:59,720 that are below the range of human 936 00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:03,400 hearing low-frequency sounds as well as 937 00:42:12,450 --> 00:42:07,250 sounds that are in the audible range 938 00:42:15,849 --> 00:42:12,460 of course electromagnetic frequencies 939 00:42:18,790 --> 00:42:15,859 all at the same time and so hopefully 940 00:42:23,620 --> 00:42:18,800 I've answered the question completed no 941 00:42:25,839 --> 00:42:23,630 they're ongoing excellent we have just a 942 00:42:29,140 --> 00:42:25,849 few more here now a couple more 943 00:42:31,540 --> 00:42:29,150 Annamarie says I remember I believe in 944 00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:31,550 the first episode that there was a 945 00:42:36,730 --> 00:42:33,920 discussion of pictures of the Mesa being 946 00:42:38,890 --> 00:42:36,740 taken with cell phone cameras that we're 947 00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:38,900 experiencing some odd static or some 948 00:42:44,500 --> 00:42:41,599 distortion like that why did this not 949 00:42:47,470 --> 00:42:44,510 happen to the History Channel cameras 950 00:42:49,089 --> 00:42:47,480 I love the kind of thinking that is on 951 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:49,099 display here because that's a perfectly 952 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:54,050 reasonable question and I can go into 953 00:42:58,690 --> 00:42:56,570 the details of what happened with with 954 00:43:00,730 --> 00:42:58,700 the cameras or the devices that have 955 00:43:03,460 --> 00:43:00,740 malfunctioned but to go straight to the 956 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:03,470 question itself it has to be understood 957 00:43:07,660 --> 00:43:05,570 that that whatever is taking place on 958 00:43:10,810 --> 00:43:07,670 the ranch is transient and transient 959 00:43:15,370 --> 00:43:10,820 means it comes goes it's episodic it it 960 00:43:18,910 --> 00:43:15,380 isn't always happening and I hope that 961 00:43:21,849 --> 00:43:18,920 that's a satisfactory answer I can add 962 00:43:24,220 --> 00:43:21,859 to that as well that it it did in fact 963 00:43:28,359 --> 00:43:24,230 happen to some of the production cameras 964 00:43:30,070 --> 00:43:28,369 at times so that's right so it's it's 965 00:43:31,329 --> 00:43:30,080 not that you're not gonna see that we're 966 00:43:33,099 --> 00:43:31,339 not going to necessarily break that 967 00:43:34,750 --> 00:43:33,109 fourth wall on the show and just like 968 00:43:36,970 --> 00:43:34,760 say oh no the production cameras went 969 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:36,980 down but just no and I mean Eric can 970 00:43:42,250 --> 00:43:38,210 attest to that that there were times 971 00:43:44,260 --> 00:43:42,260 where equipment malfunctioned that's 972 00:43:49,180 --> 00:43:44,270 right I've seen I've seen equipment of 973 00:43:51,490 --> 00:43:49,190 almost every kind malfunction and even 974 00:43:53,170 --> 00:43:51,500 be damaged by something that is 975 00:43:54,099 --> 00:43:53,180 prevalent on that property but again 976 00:43:57,849 --> 00:43:54,109 it's transient 977 00:44:00,760 --> 00:43:57,859 okay and so the the last one we have 978 00:44:03,700 --> 00:44:00,770 from Facebook here is from Darlene and 979 00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:03,710 she said can the UFOs and lights in the 980 00:44:14,130 --> 00:44:07,609 sky be seen from other locations not on 981 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:14,140 the ranch I think there's a fairly rich 982 00:44:20,380 --> 00:44:18,890 tradition a history of sightings of this 983 00:44:23,319 --> 00:44:20,390 kind 984 00:44:26,049 --> 00:44:23,329 throughout the basin in fact yes I know 985 00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:26,059 that that individuals who have lived 986 00:44:32,559 --> 00:44:28,880 near the ranch's itself have reported 987 00:44:37,150 --> 00:44:32,569 seeing things why not on some of them 988 00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:37,160 luminous others appearing metallic but 989 00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:39,200 you know I can't I don't want to 990 00:44:44,370 --> 00:44:41,359 speculate on on that I don't want to 991 00:44:48,930 --> 00:44:44,380 interpret that the short answer is yes 992 00:44:50,380 --> 00:44:48,940 well have reported having seen things 993 00:44:53,349 --> 00:44:50,390 awesome 994 00:44:56,289 --> 00:44:53,359 well Eric that is the extent of our 995 00:44:57,759 --> 00:44:56,299 questions for right now you know over 996 00:44:59,650 --> 00:44:57,769 the week there were some really good 997 00:45:01,210 --> 00:44:59,660 questions in there I mean and I think 998 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:01,220 the three of us did a pretty decent job 999 00:45:05,980 --> 00:45:03,170 of filtering them out and giving you the 1000 00:45:07,420 --> 00:45:05,990 the ones that actually I think you know 1001 00:45:08,890 --> 00:45:07,430 you did a great job addressing and we 1002 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:08,900 appreciate that thank you so guys I 1003 00:45:13,509 --> 00:45:10,490 really appreciate questions like this 1004 00:45:16,450 --> 00:45:13,519 and you know I hope you know I I mean to 1005 00:45:18,069 --> 00:45:16,460 be receptive to them and I appreciate 1006 00:45:21,549 --> 00:45:18,079 the opportunity to field some of them 1007 00:45:24,789 --> 00:45:21,559 and hopefully to engage in a lively 1008 00:45:26,490 --> 00:45:24,799 discourse all of all of these are really 1009 00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:26,500 good ideas that are being put out there 1010 00:45:31,029 --> 00:45:28,250 so come on 1011 00:45:33,579 --> 00:45:31,039 so and now that you've said that how 1012 00:45:36,519 --> 00:45:33,589 about you join us again next week we 1013 00:45:38,620 --> 00:45:36,529 could be awesome because we'll have an 1014 00:45:40,210 --> 00:45:38,630 episode I mean great I'm happy you're 1015 00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:40,220 into it we have an episode next week 1016 00:45:43,809 --> 00:45:42,529 you know episode five and people can 1017 00:45:46,210 --> 00:45:43,819 just keep throwing questions our way 1018 00:45:47,589 --> 00:45:46,220 we'll filter them out and not only would 1019 00:45:50,259 --> 00:45:47,599 we have these questions but we'll have 1020 00:45:51,730 --> 00:45:50,269 an episode to kind of dissect and what 1021 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:51,740 did Tom say you guys Tom said this was 1022 00:45:56,980 --> 00:45:52,970 one of the episodes is going to produce 1023 00:45:58,569 --> 00:45:56,990 the most data or he said yeah but most 1024 00:46:01,660 --> 00:45:58,579 data and this is the one he's most 1025 00:46:08,279 --> 00:46:01,670 excited for he thinks because he has not 1026 00:46:10,660 --> 00:46:08,289 seen it allegedly is us very excited yes 1027 00:46:11,799 --> 00:46:10,670 Eric so if you come back next week we'd 1028 00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:11,809 love to have you that would be awesome 1029 00:46:16,210 --> 00:46:14,960 and we'll go over the next episode we'll 1030 00:46:19,029 --> 00:46:16,220 dissect that and you can give us some 1031 00:46:21,549 --> 00:46:19,039 backstory into that as well so but for 1032 00:46:23,890 --> 00:46:21,559 this week that's it for us on the scene 1033 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:23,900 Walker debrief so be sure to join us 1034 00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:26,690 next week and we'll be here to dissect 1035 00:46:31,450 --> 00:46:29,089 that next episode with our special guest 1036 00:46:33,970 --> 00:46:31,460 Eric again and don't forget to tune in 1037 00:46:35,980 --> 00:46:33,980 to the History Channel this choose 1038 00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:35,990 may 5th at 10:00 p.m. we're back a 1039 00:46:40,210 --> 00:46:38,480 regular night regular time for Episode 1040 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:40,220 five of the secretive skinwalker ranch 1041 00:46:45,670 --> 00:46:42,650 and the title of the next episode is 1042 00:46:49,270 --> 00:46:45,680 called dangerous curves and just to give 1043 00:46:51,220 --> 00:46:49,280 you a little teaser it says advanced 1044 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:51,230 testing shows evidence of strange 1045 00:46:56,820 --> 00:46:53,290 anomalies under the ranch and Brandon 1046 00:46:58,900 --> 00:46:56,830 finally gives the team permission to dig 1047 00:47:01,060 --> 00:46:58,910 so I think that'll be a big payoff for 1048 00:47:03,580 --> 00:47:01,070 everyone so again thank you everyone for